A very ugly high end slug gun

[rookhawk]

I'm delighted to be offering for sale, a very ugly gun. Be the embarassment of your friend network by buying it!

Yes, its the finest, most accurate slug rifle you can possibly own. Yes, its a laminated and stainless steel abomination designed for States that require the use of slugs. I'm elated to report it is unfired and I no longer live in a slug-only State so I get to pass this disgusting, inelegant weapon of precision onto some unfortunate soul that is prohibited by law from using a civilized rifle for hunting game.

It's based on a stainless action Savage 220 20gauge slug gun. It has a Zeiss illuminated 1-4x scope. It has a custom Kenton turret burned to Remington Accutip PRA20M saboted slugs, the most accurate type available. It has a custom stock from Boyds. I think it was either pillar or glass bedded. It has a custom fluted bull barrel with integral muzzle brake from Tar-Hunt. Custom trigger set to 3-3.5lbs. Custom bolt handle for easier feeding and loading. EGW steel picatinny base. Warne QD 30mm rings in low or ultra low config. Thumbhole custom stock with the checkering upgrade and other features. I'm sure I'm forgetting a number of specs of the build. The custom turret is spec'd for drops from 50 yards to 270 yards and that is about the shooting distance you'll get with precision on this gun. Includes more than a case of the unobtainable 3" accutip slugs that generally sell for 3x MSRP or more each Fall.

Bottom line, if you want to shoot deer and other game at rifle distances but you're stuck in a slug-only jurisdiction, this custom is as good as you can get. If you have a kid or a female hunter in your family, good luck getting them out deer hunting in a slug State without this rifle since the recoil is formidable unless you have an integrated brake.



$4000 plus shipping to your FFL, less than the cost I pad for the gun and ammo.

 

[R.M.C.]

Wow you're right, that's an ugly gun!! Lol good luck with the sale, perfect for shotgun only areas

 

[BeeMaa]

While some say "ugly"...one might substitute in words like weather resistant, incredibly practical or purpose built. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

GLWTS.

 

[Finprof]

A Savage 220 is not ugly. I have 2 of them. One is black and carbon steel. The other is camo and stainless steel. I live in a shotgun-only state and hunt in parts of 2 others that prohibit rifles.
Also I don’t consider the recoil to be formidable without a muzzle brake, but I previously used a 12 gauge Deerslayer II whose recoil was unquestionably formidable.

 

[TheSayHeyKid]

Boy...if you think that's ugly, I've got an H&R Handi-Rifle that you should see. It's uglier than the east end of a horse headed west. In it's defense it is just my truck gun and is chambered in .22-250. She's a shooter though if the nut behind the stock does his part.

 

[Brian]

rookhawk, Some folks think a Porsche car is ugly too.

I think your rifle is a perfect "purpose built" specialty rifle. I have a one in 577NE that looks about the same as yours. I also put sticky back camo skate board tape on the barrel and spray painted parts of the action with OD green lawn furniture paint which, by the way, lasts longer than modern blueing.

That is nice straight stock for recoil.
For me the scope might be a bit too close to the eye with heavy loads. ( I'm kind of a stock crawler.)

I used to be an avid pass shooter of Canadian Geese back in the days of steel shot. We would take high grade shotguns like a Belgium Browning Superposed and camo the hell out of it. ( Most people thought that was was very cringe worthy.)

Also, I have always wondered if the CEB .620 cal Raptor bullet could work in a rifled 20 ga. barrel.
( I never checked on what the actual diameter of a rifled 20 ga. barrel is.)

A .577 hard cast bullet at 1,650 fps. kills cape buffalo well with a good shoulder shot. Your rifle , with the right sabot, might be the "cat's meow" on cape buffalo at 30-70 yds. Originally some of those big bores were about 300 fps slower that they are now with moderate powders and rifles.

Can you tell me what velocity you can get out of yours? Do you know what the twist rate is?

Personally I admire your rifle and respect a hunter who will build a rifle for a specific type of hunting. You value the hunting over you firearm being a fashion statement. Good job, IMO.

 

[rookhawk]

Answers to the various questions and comments in the thread:

A.) What velocity am I getting? No idea. The Remington Accutip 260gr sabot in the 3" I believe is published at 1900fps. Obviously that is not real world due to shorter barrel lengths. The standard savage slug guns have 22" barrels, this one I think is 23-24" so it does get a bit more of the velocity.

B.) You wont get the accuracy desired out of a custom loaded "bore rider" slug in .610" diameter. The weight of the slug would be too heavy moving too slow. Hence, the 260gr sabot accutips are smaller and lighter providing more of a rifle-like performance. I believe the actual bullet removed from the sabot is a .45 or .50 cal.

C.) Not sure of the twist rate, it is whatever TarHunt dictates as the most idyllic one for the 3" PRA20M Remington ammo. Everything about the gun is built around that specific slug to turn the gun into a 250 yard+ suitable weapon whereas most other slugs and guns you're getting 50-125 yard range.

And to all of you with the nice complements, I'm insulted. This is a perfectly fugly gun I have here and you're complementing its beauty. It's ugly I tell ya, UGLY!

 

[Hunt anything]

Wow you're right, that's an ugly gun!! Lol good luck with the sale, perfect for shotgun only areas

Agree it’s ugly but IMO it’s ugly like an old boar warthog! I wish I could afford it, it would be perfect for my property on the bay.

 

[R.M.C.]

Agree it’s ugly but IMO it’s ugly like an old boar warthog! I wish I could afford it, it would be perfect for my property on the bay.

I agree, I bet its a real shooter!

 

[Ontario Hunter]

After looking at that thing I think I need a shower.

 

[JimP]

And here I thought that you had a old customized Marlin Goose Gun.

 

[375er]

I used to be an avid pass shooter of Canadian Geese back in the days of steel shot. We would take high grade shotguns like a Belgium Browning Superposed and camo the hell out of it. ( Most people thought that was was very cringe worthy.

Yep. That is cringe worthy....

 

[Justbryan]

I once met a guy at the range shooting a shinny pink rifle. It was an ugly gun. My commitment to him was that it better shot under 1/4" at 100 yards.

 

[Dinsdale]

A Savage 220 is not ugly. I have 2 of them. One is black and carbon steel. The other is camo and stainless steel. I live in a shotgun-only state and hunt in parts of 2 others that prohibit rifles.
Also I don’t consider the recoil to be formidable without a muzzle brake, but I previously used a 12 gauge Deerslayer II whose recoil was unquestionably formidable.

LOL, anyone who has shot a 12 ga slug gun will find the Savage 220 a significant departure in the recoil dept (also have a 20ga Deerslayer after selling the 12ga version)

I’d have no problem to 150yds right out of the box with mine and I paid less then 400 bucks when they first came out. Dick’s would run a sale every year.

 

[deewayne2003]

Yes sir, that may be ugly but some American who resides in a cold place calls that his “dream deer gun”.

It could be worse though; my buddy had a
.358 Hoosier made for a deer hunting in Indiana.

Now Indiana allows any center fire.

 

[JPetroni]

Rookhawk,

As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But that is one of the funniest and certainly most creative introductions for a sale that I have ever read.
GLWS

JP

 

[John the Electrician]

Answers to the various questions and comments in the thread:

A.) What velocity am I getting? No idea. The Remington Accutip 260gr sabot in the 3" I believe is published at 1900fps. Obviously that is not real world due to shorter barrel lengths. The standard savage slug guns have 22" barrels, this one I think is 23-24" so it does get a bit more of the velocity.

B.) You wont get the accuracy desired out of a custom loaded "bore rider" slug in .610" diameter. The weight of the slug would be too heavy moving too slow. Hence, the 260gr sabot accutips are smaller and lighter providing more of a rifle-like performance. I believe the actual bullet removed from the sabot is a .45 or .50 cal.

C.) Not sure of the twist rate, it is whatever TarHunt dictates as the most idyllic one for the 3" PRA20M Remington ammo. Everything about the gun is built around that specific slug to turn the gun into a 250 yard+ suitable weapon whereas most other slugs and guns you're getting 50-125 yard range.

And to all of you with the nice complements, I'm insulted. This is a perfectly fugly gun I have here and you're complementing its beauty. It's ugly I tell ya, UGLY!

I’m quite confident that I’ve never seen the word fugly in print. Amazing.

John the electrician

 

[ILDRHNTR]

What an amazingly beautiful gun you have there @rookhawk. Obviously I live in one of those dxxxed slug gun states or I would agree with your “fugly” comment. For those of us that have no other option, this is as fine as it gets. A true tack driver. Each of my three boys have one and they have been taking down deer since they were 5 or 6. I usually snatch one of theirs on the rare occasion I actually get to hunt. The 20ga is touted as much more accurate than the 12. And I see reports the 2 3/4” shells are more accurate than the 3” (probably due to less recoil). Best of luck on the sale of this dream gun.

 

[rookhawk]

What an amazingly beautiful gun you have there @rookhawk. Obviously I live in one of those dxxxed slug gun states or I would agree with your “fugly” comment. For those of us that have no other option, this is as fine as it gets. A true tack driver. Each of my three boys have one and they have been taking down deer since they were 5 or 6. I usually snatch one of theirs on the rare occasion I actually get to hunt. The 20ga is touted as much more accurate than the 12. And I see reports the 2 3/4” shells are more accurate than the 3” (probably due to less recoil). Best of luck on the sale of this dream gun.

Just a point of order on shells and accuracy. Obviously, every load and gun combination can deliver different results, but the 3” 20 gauge shells are generally more accurate for two key reasons. One, they have less free bore which is generally a better idea. Two, the velocity difference (published) is 1750fps versus 1900fps at the muzzle, approximately. The extra 150fps is reducing time of flight which reduces effects of wind and drop.

Purpose built slug rifles are typically designed to have a different lead into the lands that is shorter than a do-all barrel on something like a Remington 870 or Ithaca deerslayer. The 3” slug shells of today are actually shorter than 3” with only a minor roll crimp holding back a sabot compared to a longer star crimp on the older designs that is closer to a 3” bird shot type shotgun shell.

There is an absurd amount of science going into these custom slug rifles and it’s why you can spend many, many thousands on a good one. It’s the same phenomenon as the $10,000 muzzle loader. People want to hunt and they want to hunt at reasonable rifle ranges of 200-275 yards. Unfortunately, an off the shelf slug rifle or muzzleloader is not going to produce ethical shots at those ranges.

With this gun in question, you range the deer, turn the turret to the yardage, aim and shoot, out to 270 yards.

 

[SAFARIKIDD]

" A look only a Mother could Love" [emoji1665][emoji1787]
I actually dont find it ugly at all...but them again you should see my wife! [emoji12]