One of the worst "examples of hunting" I have seen

[dchum]

Don’t think it’s to much fun hunting form a truck?
I take it you can walk perty well then?
It’s fun a legal in fl.
Really not much different than using a box stand.

And a lot of dog hunters all over use trucks as normal thing

We are talking about Africa,

Have you ever been?

 

[Rubberhead]

Right after my first breakfast in Africa, the PH and I jumped in the truck to go sight my rifle. Even before we got to the "range" he told me in no uncertain terms, "we don't shoot from the truck".

I thanked him and said, "neither do I". We had a very fun spot-and-stalk safari...

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I made it as far in that video as them standing over the suffering eland. By the time they finished at the range I pretty much had them pegged as trash. Cannot imagine what part of the world they would come from to be putting that out for their neighbors and coworkers to see. Planet "X" maybe? Anything goes down there.

There will come a time, not too far off I suspect, when I won't be able to chase down big game or uplands on foot. I will quit rather than drive around and shoot from a truck or stand under a tower while pheasants are catapulted out for me to shoot. I guess people who do that crap don't have any memories of real hunting. It would sure tarnish any I have. When I'm so far in the bag I can't run down my game on foot, I'll just stick to shooting skeet. Or crocheting hankies.

 

[Beck]

No doubt that the croc was planted, totally disgusting. I would look mighty hard at a croc hunt in South Africa, I’m sure there are some good hunts in a fair chase hunt but I would definitely do my homework.
On another note on crocs and alligators. At my home in southern Alabama any given piece of water no matter how small it is can have a gator in it. On our farm we had a 10 footer that took over a retention pond that measured less than a tenth of an acre. He stayed for about 2 weeks which was probably long enough for him to clean out every turtle, frog and snake in it. It definitely kept my farm workers on their toes when working in the area!
We live roughly a mile from a river and a mile from a bay, no question he was run off by a bigger gator and would move on to more permanent water.

I saw crocs in mud holes in Mozambique no bigger than a couple of pickup trucks.

The exact same thing going on in the lets go to africa video - planted a croc in a tiny pond!

 

[DieJager]

Or crocheting hankies.

Had to look than one up cause English isn't my native language .

 

[Hunt anything]

I've always heard if it didn't come out of the Limpopo River or parts of Mpumalanga then odds are it's farm raised.

Very true on the alligators, we are damned near overruned with them in coastal SC.
The smaller ones travel to retention ponds through the drainage pipes for miles. The larger ones generally don't travel too far from the rivers. It's very common to see 10-12 foot gators walking across the streets in the neighborhood where my Mom lives. Her neighbor across their pond was taken by a 11 ft female guarding it's nest a couple of years ago.
Didn't eat him, but drowned him and brought him next to mom's driveway in a cove. Still pretty brutal!

I’ve heard there are some in the Palala River, I’ll be in that area in August and we’re doing a river cruise and hope to show the family some wild crocs!

 

[Sabre]

As often happens in threads like this it feels like there is a degradation and blurring between the definitions of: Moral, Ethical, Preference, and Legal.

 

[Field28]

The exact same thing going on in the lets go to africa video - planted a croc in a tiny pond!

The old "Problem Croc" that the Outfitter was able to secure a special permit for!

 

[Flbt]

Take a moment to breath, now exhale calmly. Then try to re-read what I wrote and then your own reading. Almost the same. I recognize this with your reactions to a lot of posts. Try to leave your emotions out of it. It isn't about you. Just civilized people trying to have a conversation.

To explain my example, what is legal can be unethical.
Where I live I cannot dispatch a mortally wounded wolf. Even if it will certainly die. I can call the wildlife authorities, that will take ages and the wolf will die in pain. The legal way to do things. Fully according the law.

Illegal, but the most ethical would be to end his suffering. Then you will lose your license but ethical. Fully illegal.

It’s not so much emotions.
Its dyslexic and never taken a English or grammar class after third grade.
Add to that trying to type and do stuff on a little smart phone with fat fingers.
And the meds I am on don’t help.

I was not and am not mad or anything with your post.

It’s just my take on ethics how really there just a personal guide but it seams most want to saddle others with there version.

Again not bother by your post and sorry that it came off as being emotional.

 

[Flbt]

We are talking about Africa,

Have you ever been?

Nope but sitting in a truck is sitting in at truck no matter where it’s at.

 

[Russ16]

I hate what I saw on those videos.

But it is also a bit of people that don’t know better. In the last video posted the woman shoots a croc on way seem very odd setting. After the shot she is shaking with the same excitement any of us would do after a legit stalk and hunt.

In this case I do put blame on the hunting industry. It sells excitement to people with little or no experience. If you do they’ve a mentor to teach you ethics where do you learn them? If all you know is that killing the animal is the goal how do you learn what’s the right way to do it?

I don’t want anything to do with what happened in those videos. But I had a father who taught me fair chase. It appears those people didn’t. How can we as a community continue to make clear what’s acceptable and what isn’t?

I don’t have the answer.

 

[DieJager]

It’s not so much emotions.
Its dyslexic and never taken a English or grammar class after third grade.
Add to that trying to type and do stuff on a little smart phone with fat fingers.
And the meds I am on don’t help.

I was not and am not mad or anything with your post.

It’s just my take on ethics how really there just a personal guide but it seams most want to saddle others with there version.

Again not bother by your post and sorry that it came off as being emotional.

No harm done. Thanks for the reply. Think we're much on the same page.

 

[Field28]

To me, if you're able bodied then the goal should be to spot or track and stalk.
In Africa though sh!t happens, I shot my first gemsbok from the back of a Hilux.

Going up a mountain on a winding road and a gemsbok was standing broadside at 60 yards, I didn't even use a rest and freehanded the shot with a 30-06 after the PH gave me the go ahead. Dropped in it's tracks and then winched into the back of the Hilux. Sh!t happens... TIA

 

[spike.t]

Illegal to shoot from the vehicle or within a certain distance of it in certain African hunting countries........
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